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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 19 2012, 01:07 AM (2,143 Views) | |
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Sep 19 2012, 01:07 AM Post #1 |
 
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I'm a little confused about Broly's legendary super saiyan form. There is certainly a lot of speculation that the legendary super saiyan form is the mastered version of the ultra super saiyan form because of looks, muscle mass, lack of speed loss, and endless stamina. However, the other half of the fanbase say that the legendary super saiyan form is a unique, rare, super saiyan form that is only exclusive to Broly and has nothing to do with the ascended and ultra super saiyan forms. Does the legendary super saiyan form actually fall in the line of the canon super saiyan forms, or is it a completely different form only accessible to Broly?
Edited by Super Gogito, Sep 19 2012, 01:13 AM.
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| + Kyouks | Sep 19 2012, 01:08 AM Post #2 |
 
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It's totally different; hence "Legendary" Super Saiyan. |
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Sep 19 2012, 01:08 AM Post #3 |
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I honestly think it's and his own form. Nothing to do with all the other forms. |
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| anytyme | Sep 19 2012, 02:01 AM Post #4 |
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It's not canon. It's unique to Broly, he was born that way. That is no logic behind how people said it's the mastered version of USSJ. If it was Goku and Gohan would have probably achieved it. |
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| Saberoph | Sep 19 2012, 02:07 AM Post #5 |
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Oh they would have done that, and I think it would have changed a lot in the Cell Games imo. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 19 2012, 03:20 AM Post #6 |
 
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"BROLY LOOK LIKE USSJ TRUNKS HURR DURR MUSTA BEEN COPIED" That's about the extent of the logic they use. Legendary Super Saiyan is a unique form all on its own. There is nothing similar about it other than the muscle mass increasing, which is not unique to Grade 3. 
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| + Kyouks | Sep 19 2012, 03:31 AM Post #7 |
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I guess Grade 3 copied 100% Frieza. 
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| Billa | Sep 19 2012, 04:18 AM Post #8 |
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USSJ is form thats impossible to be mastered., LSSJ is TOEI's cheap marketing ploy, enuff said. |
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Sep 19 2012, 10:32 AM Post #9 |
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I don't think that it's impossible for them to master USSJ. It would just be difficult to master. Edited by Super Gogito, Sep 19 2012, 10:33 AM.
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| Billa | Sep 19 2012, 11:08 AM Post #10 |
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The word difficult to master seems to open the way that there's room for perfection, of which clearly isn't the case. ASSJ & USSJ were 2 complete different forms where brute force, & raw power was pushed beyond the normal SSJ while MSSJ form was the true mastered from of SSJ. That was my point by sayin USSJ was impossible to be mastered. Think abt it. The enormous power boost given by the form also brings together its insane energy drain, stamina drain. Clearly, its impossible to be mastered. Btw, opinions differs for each person. |
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Sep 19 2012, 11:54 PM Post #11 |
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USSJ and ASSJ are "grade forms" for a reason; they're grade transformations of SSJ, distinct in certain aspects but still a subset of. LSSJ is an actual transformation beyond SSJ. USSJ has speed loss and stamina drain, LSSJ has the opposite; i.e. speed gain and replenishing stamina. Furthermore, it has green hair (totally not related to SSJ or its grade forms), and the body itself actually gets bigger (an actual increase in height and the muscle mass is increased proportionately but not over-proportionately to the point of being grotesquely bulged like the USSJ form) I agree with Billa that you can't master USSJ or ASSJ, and with general consensus that LSSJ is not related to USSJ in anyway. Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Sep 19 2012, 11:55 PM.
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Sep 19 2012, 11:58 PM Post #12 |
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LSSj is a whole level beyond SSj. USSj is just a buffed up and stupid SSj. Is Broly stupid? No. He likes toying with his enemies, nothing ever shows that he's stupid, or cocky for that matter like Cell was. He only uses a different fighting style. LSSj is in no shape or form a rip off of an USSj form. |
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Sep 20 2012, 12:13 AM Post #13 |
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The LSSj form is unique to broly because it was MADE that way. you could say its a copy of USSj, but it would be a lie. Or a misunderstanding. simply put? broly created an energy suit for himself with his power, thats not what the grade forms do. height, strength, stamina dont necessarily INCREASE but are able to be supported by his own power. he was BORN the LSSJ he doesnt become it. However, you could argue its his own special brand of USSj, but i think that its honestly a form he created at that moment to fight goku. But LSSJ (bulk form) is broly fully realized in power and strength, ki weighted to the max and not able to be duplicated. so imagine if you are strong, you have the ability to use ALL of your power at once, but in order to do that you have to transform, brolys no different. In order for anyone to transform in the DBZ verse to such a high degree? you HAVE to transform. and brolys bulk form is the answer to all the hidden power he has access to. USSJ doesnt do that, USSj uses all the ki the user has to get the enhanced strength and muscle mass, broly has energy to spare to the point where transfroming might not even take any ki to do it with. major diff. |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | Sep 20 2012, 12:50 AM Post #14 |
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Maybe....Paragus is actually the son of USSJ Trunks (who was sent back in time by Bulma for his own safety), and as a result Broly was born as a USSJ (it skips a generation). So if you think about it, King Vegeta actually tried to kill his great great grandson. DBZ>Shakespeare  edit: so yeh Broly is naturally able to fully utilise the form, since he just had it his whole life Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Sep 20 2012, 12:51 AM.
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| aria51 | Sep 20 2012, 09:17 PM Post #15 |
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LSSJ is different in many ways, USSJ trunks is strong, maybe even slightly, very slightly stronger than perfect cell, but broly is stronger than SSJ2 gohan when he comes back, and ssj2 gohan, even without training is still stronger than perfect cell by a lot and stronger than trunks. Mastering USSJ is basically becoming SSJ2 not LSSJ. thats just my perspective though
Edited by aria51, Sep 20 2012, 09:18 PM.
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